You Are Not Alone…in us finding new ways to make you part with your money


That’s probably what Jensen and Misha should have called their latest campaign. Instead, it is merely called You Are Not Alone.

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This one is probably the most ridiculous campaign yet. And before anyone says anything, yeah, it sounds like a decent enough idea. At first. *points below*

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Oh, but wait, gotta buy a shirt first! Oh and…where’s my favourite phrase- ‘a portion of all proceeds…‘. Ah. There it is.

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Oh and, Jensen and Misha put a lot of effort in their ‘message’…if they wrote this at all. I could do better and I have no interest in this campaign.

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Hey, maybe the shirt is decent? Maybe? What’s that? It’s hideous? Oh well.

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I honestly suck at Photoshop but given at least three weeks, I could probably come up with a less shitty design. WHO IS PAYING FOR THIS?! Y’all should campaign for a better design first.

But wait…fans (the same fans who would supposedly be trained – I hope that’s a joke because, lol) are arguing over the campaign! Full on shitstorm kinda shit. Apparently Jenyonce and Mishelle stole Jarelly’s idea (I’m reverting to their Destiny’s Scorned Child names). Jarelly started Always Keep Fighting and was the first to ever sell t-shirts to raise money for charity. Yeah, no. Stephen Amell did something first and LITERALLY helped Jared set his up. And so have many other Z-List celebrities. But, You Are Not Alone is supposedly a rip off of Always Keep Hustlin’ (this is like a really fucked up SNL sketch except none of them are relevant enough for that).

Apparently, those that are supporting AKF, aren’t supporting You Are Not Alone…even though both charities/campaigns pretty much do the same thing? Like, really? People are pissed off BECAUSE they’re trying to help people without Jared (and yeah, it’s obvious they are targeting ‘cockles’ fans, but…so?). I strongly doubt that Jared gives a fuck. He knows that his campaign will get him more undivided attention. Fans should be arguing about why they’re being asked for even more money. The phrase ‘a fool and his money are soon parted’ comes to mind. And wasn’t Always Keep Fightin’ about uplifting each other blah, blah, blah, yay Jared, blah, blah. Seems fans are taking it literally and just straight up fightin’.

Is that really the issue here? No one is at all concerned at the premise of what they’re trying to do. Jenyonce and the other one want to recruit the same people arguing over whose face is on the ugly shirts to…counsel fans in crisis? This all reads like a really sick joke. The mere notion of ‘eligible’ fans counselling other fans is ridiculous. The Supernatural fandom contains some of the rudest, depraved, nasty, ill-mannered people I have ever encountered. Not that all of them are like that, but yeah…

I just…can’t.

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The information is vague at best and I personally wouldn’t donate to such a thing. If I have to ask for clearer, more in-depth information that’s already strike 1. IMO, this is the kind thing that probably needs to find actual capital from somewhere else and start functioning before requesting donations from people. If it’s an online platform, they’re going to need a fair amount of money. Moreso if it isn’t web-based. Anywho, enjoy the shirts fandom! You’re not alone. Jensen and Misha are there with you, pretending to fake kiss and stuff. Or something.


Thank you to Anna for helping me do research on this! I am eagerly awaiting Ponzilecki’s sixth round of SPN UFC. Not. 

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19 thoughts on “You Are Not Alone…in us finding new ways to make you part with your money

  1. Here’s a little article outlining what we already know: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2720336/How-charity-work-benefits-stars-Links-good-causes-make-celebrities-popular.html

    So, according to academics it’s really celebrities who benefit from charities. No wonder every PR company promotes charitable work for their clients. Easy attention and goodwill. And, of course, celebrities have someone else managing their efforts so they only need to do show up and be the “face” of whatever venture they’ve “created.”

    What always baffles me is the way Jared fans claim his charity saves lives. Does my local t-shirt store save lives? Because so far that’s what’s happening in that campaign. It kind of pisses me off, because there are real heroes out there — EMTs, doctors, firefighters, even search and rescue dogs. Those gals and guys actually do save lives and nobody carries on about them the way people drone on about Jared.

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    1. Sorry for the late response. WordPress was buggin’ on my phone. Your comment is pretty spot on. The academics don’t even need to be the ones to tell us – most of them are paid to front these charities. And of course more and more charities operate as businesses these days. It’s all very calculated.

      LOL. I keep asking them that very question. How are three words and a t-shirt saving your lives? Some perspective is needed (but this is the SPN fandom so I don’t expect it to come). Jared is not a trained professional – that’s the main thing I can’t wrap my head around. How exactly is he advising these people…? Apart from selling t-shirts and talking about his struggle, he isn’t doing anything. Just this week I was told that he ‘gives and gives’ – yeah…how? SMH. Is he inspirational? – Perhaps. Life saver? Definitely not. There was even a rumour that they had to pump the breaks on people giving their testimonials at cons. It is just messy all around.

      EMTs, doctors, firefighters, even search and rescue dogs. Those gals and guys actually do save lives and nobody carries on about them the way people drone on about Jared.

      Yup! Unfortunately people like Jared are ten a penny. They’re happy to take the glory from unsung people. It might not be his fault but he doesn’t exactly shy away from it either.

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      1. Here is the other thing that gets me: in between being a Dalai Lama wanna-be Jared still continues to do batshit insensitive stuff like his super entitled call outs whenever he doesn’t get treated like royalty or shoving the Robertsons down our throats. Will the real Jared please stand up?

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        1. Do you have any examples? I stumbled upon his call out of that restaurant in Austin daring to make him wait for over an hour for a table after he showed up at 9pm on a Sunday evening! The entitlement is beyond irritating. Taking the time to @ them because you turned up at a popular time and they didn’t snap their fingers immediately is really mature. /sarcasm. But apart from that I avoid his page like the plague. I’m happy to call him out though. Kinda funny that his fans hate it when other people do that but it’s okay for Mr I’m Being An Asshole On Behalf Of The Little People!

          Ewwww, he still hangs out with the Robertsons? I thought he was ‘liberal’ (for Twitter purposes perhaps). Oh dear. The Padalai lama act doesn’t fool me either but you know, he’s immune to criticism because it supposedly makes him even more depressed (this is what a fan of his said to me, with no irony at all).

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      2. It’s nothing new that celebrities, companies or charity organisations are taking benefits from the charity campaigns.
        Please, don’t expect people to work for free, even for charity. There is a reason why organisations usually have their own employees with regular salaries, contracted people & companies (which are paid and it depends only on their own free will if they want to take a salary for themselves or to donate it to the organisation) AND volunteers (who work for free).
        It’s a regular practice all over the world, where the main point is to create this kind of the win-win situation that will benefit everyone involved. It doesn’t necessarily mean those who are involved only doing it for money or because of the PR reasons. But even if – are the intentions really matters if we achievement a positive effort? Not so much, to be honest. For example, when it comes to RA what they promote in a first place is a creativity and an attitude to helping others. It works, it has an influence on people’s behavior. This is the value that can’t be count in $ and you can’t say this is something that only benefits actor who’s behind it.
        The main goal when it comes to run a charity successfully is the ability to make a good deal. Believe me, there is really nothing suspicious or mischievous within this practice. Like for example when it comes to GISHWHES, Misha was originally asked to do a charity that will benefit CW Network and promote SPN. And he did but at the same time, he created the deal that benefits RA as well, the charity that helps people and he found a way to also help other organisations. Is GISHWHES helping his image and gives him free, nice publicity? Of course. But as you can see there is a balance in which who (or what) and how is benefited by an event, nothing here is taken out of proportion. The result is the value that can’t be measured (like a real change in each one behavior) or it manifested in a real help that comes for other than RA charities and causes (like raising money for the refugees, helping local organizations from around the world and so on). So the event benefits also parts that are not originally involved in the project. This is A+ management and it only proves organisers are professional and most likely can be trusted.
        Talking about YANA itself. From what I remember RA publicised short YANA financial report a couple of weeks ago. It seems that even more money from proceeds is going to the CSN that we originally suspected.
        You’re saying people from the SPN fandom can’t be good in helping others. It’s only your opinion, which I disagree. But even if we assume most of the fandom are bitter and salty people I can assure you that helping others usually changed this attitude. And yeah,this is the sociological trick, which is partly behind the campaign – to also help those bitter haters see a different point of view. Again – win-win situation.
        Believe me or not this Crisis Network is needed. Not only in the fandom. I’m Alive already has a small platform with volunteers but it still not enough. If they can make an international, multi languages platform which can help people from around the world, why to care how much money (if any) went to each one pocket?
        The only part that can be considered as a “shady”one is this portion of the cash that went directly to CS.
        Assuming that actors are taking some enormous salaries from CS is really a little pity. CS has probably their own expenses, so the portion of the money that goes to those actors who are involved in promotion could be really low or not existing. We have no idea if any of them really took this potential money for themselves or that they took them on a purpose to donate for the main cause. Well, this one is open to interpretation, but there is no need to make any accusations only based on impression. And my impression is rather most of this money is going directly to the CW or its donated to SPN (low) budget. Same as money from the cons.
        I can also assure you, there might be at least couple of reasons why RA cooperates with CS, other than stealing money from the charity (especially for Misha benefit who is only a fundraiser for RA, not their CEO).
        Just saying all of this not to defending anyone, but because a lot of people have no idea how charities work and are usually very surprised organisations actually pay people or that celebrities and corporations are promoting themselves via them. Yes, they do. This is how it works.

        And stalking innuendo in the YANA videos? Apparently, the only people who were really offended by those were crazy Jared’s stans, Misha haters and, oh what an irony, the real-life J2 stalkers (stalkers offended by stalking it’s something that really amazes me). So I’m not even going there to say how out of proportions it was taken and which agenda was behind it (hint: There was no Jared in those videos, that was what caused the trouble).

        I wasn’t really tracking the whole AKF campaign but in my opinion, if Jared sharing his experience is helping others with dealing with depression, this is a good cause and no one should devalue those people feelings.
        But, it still leads me to the question.
        I’m wondering on which cause are all this money goes from the T-shirt campaign? I mean… From what I understand J2 have some Pack Fund which is something like a platform that donates other charities, right? Can someone explain that or we just don’t know?

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        1. I don’t even know where to begin with this, but I will start by saying that you actually made some good points. Some of the information that you posted was new to me and quite interesting, that being said, it was hard to make sense of much of it. Maybe that’s because I’m not in fandom and don’t keep up with this stuff. However, that you think it was just crazy Jared stans offended by those videos made me question your affiliations. I’m not a crazy Jared stan but I was perturbed by the videos. You’d expect that this network of theirs will supposedly help people who have been victims of harassment, stalking, abuse and…they release a video making light of that? From an outsider POV – and without knowing Jared wasn’t involved – that seemed insensitive to me. And it makes me question how committed they are to actually helping people. If you can’t admit that it was in poor taste than you’re not much better than the Jared fans who took umbrage to this purely because he isn’t involved.

          Now to address parts of your comment:

          Please, don’t expect people to work for free, even for charity. There is a reason why organisations usually have their own employees with regular salaries, contracted people & companies (which are paid and it depends only on their own free will if they want to take a salary for themselves or to donate it to the organisation) AND volunteers (who work for free).

          I know what charity entails, and if someone’s job is within a charity’s hierarchy then yes, they should be paid accordingly. I fail to see what that has to do with Misha, Jared and Jensen who, as you put it, are ‘fundraisers’. Now if they don’t want to work for free, they should be awarded job titles and we should see a financial breakdown of their salaries and so on. BUT, like you also point out, they have other reasons for doing this kind of thing – namely PR and maybe money. The biggest red flag in your comment is:

          Misha was originally asked to do a charity that will benefit CW Network and promote SPN

          This certainly makes the recent flurry of charity activism interesting. And it makes me side-eye Misha as well. Yes, his charity work is admirable and – shady financial practises aside – along as it genuinely does help people, I have no issue with that. However, these campaigns don’t come across as being very authentic to me. They are more like elaborate campaigns designed to make them look like they’re doing their bit for charity, all while supposedly distributing the funds and boosting their profiles, boosting the show’s profile, boosting the CW’s profile, boosting the fandom’s profile. And yeah, you can say, ‘well this isn’t new’ and you’re correct. That still doesn’t make it right. I don’t know about the YANA and Crisis Network stuff past what’s in this post. And what’s CS? Why did cash go directly to them?

          You’re saying people from the SPN fandom can’t be good in helping others. It’s only your opinion, which I disagree. But even if we assume most of the fandom are bitter and salty people I can assure you that helping others usually changed this attitude. And yeah,this is the sociological trick, which is partly behind the campaign – to also help those bitter haters see a different point of view. Again – win-win situation.

          This is exactly what I am saying. If I was in any kind of crisis or someone I knew was, I would not direct them to anything affiliated with Supernatural. I think the Supernatural fandom has a fundamental flaw in the whole ‘SPNFamily’ movement. It sounds all nice and warm, but essentially it’s almost like a sorority – if you’re not toeing the line, all kinds of crap will come your way. If you’re not a member, then screw you. There are some very disturbed people in the fandom. Isn’t Jared the one who gets death threats from people on Twitter and so on? And these are usually people who claim to be fans of at least one of the main three. You talk about crazy Jared stans, but that is a joint theme for the more involved members of the fandom. Just because this stuff doesn’t happen in public, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

          I personally had to cut myself off from fandom because the stress was too much, the anxiety and upset it was bringing me was just not worth it. At the end of the day, it’s a TV show and by framing all of their charity work around it, I can only come to one conclusion – they’re desperately trying to keep the level of intensity in fandom as high as possible. Whether that’s to make money or to boost their profiles, I don’t know. Jared, Jensen and Misha are aware that fandom can be crazy but they – until Jared’s latest outburst – have never actually addressed the amount of bullying, depression and anxiety caused by their own fans. Instead, they’re raking in money from the same people tormenting others. That’s too murky for me. It’s like accepting asylum from somewhere like North Korea (this is an extreme example, but that’s how I feel). There’s no win-win for those people who have been treated like crap by fandom.

          So, no – I am not interested in their charity endeavours but I wish them well. If they are actually helping people then my opinion should be irrelevant.

          One last thing…

          I wasn’t really tracking the whole AKF campaign but in my opinion, if Jared sharing his experience is helping others with dealing with depression, this is a good cause and no one should devalue those people feelings.
          But, it still leads me to the question.
          I’m wondering on which cause are all this money goes from the T-shirt campaign? I mean… From what I understand J2 have some Pack Fund which is something like a platform that donates other charities, right? Can someone explain that or we just don’t know?

          Well, how is this any different from YANA and RA…? He’s a ‘fundraiser’ for charity. The AKF money was originally going to TWLOHA and later, other charities but I don’t know the specifics, and when I ask people – they can’t tell me, so, I’m not sure if anyone knows. Yeah, they do have a Pack Fund which is iffy in itself. That’s a joint thing between J2 and Creation, with Creation donating 50% to charity and J2 given the rest to distribute as they please. I recall reading that they can basically do whatever they want with it (but don’t quote me on that). If anything, you have to wonder why they needed an additional platform in the first place. But hey, fandom is a seemingly endless pit of cash, so they’re making the most of it.

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    1. My guess is 99.99999999999%. But you know, YAY COCKLES T-SHIRTS! Although the fans appear to be less gung-ho about this one. I’ll be very surprised if this comes to fruition. They probably ‘won’t raise enough money’.

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      1. The Deannuts/Destielers on IMDB have their collective panties in a wad because some charity organization refused to get involved with the ‘charity’, citing the creepy ‘joke’ videos featuring Misha stalking Jensen. Apparently, this is Jared and/or his fans fault somehow.

        Can we just cancel the show so that these guys fall off the face of the earth already?

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        1. There are creepy joke videos where Misha is stalking Jensen? Are these promotion for the charity itself? Or just random? If it is the former they are both disgusting. If it’s the latter then I am not surprised. We will add mocking a serious crime to the way their constant queer-baiting and homophobic tendencies.

          I’m glad that at least one charity organization has seen sense and realized that the two of them are not qualified to even contemplate doing something like this. The ones they are currently affiliated with should also think twice. I certainly would not ever donate to them because clearly they have no problem partnering with two self-serving pricks from The CW. Doesn’t say much about them.

          Lol, as for the cockles/destiel/dean fans, haven’t we already established that their version of events is to be ignored and rejected at all times. It’s not Jared’s fault that he keeps his stupidity limited (I feel like this isn’t the right word but I digress) to berating people on Twitter and selling his soul to corporate America. He didn’t make any stalker videos.

          I do blame him for this sudden foray into mental health charity work though. You have to admit that AKF was the starting point for all of this bullshit and that there’s always been something slightly off there.

          So, collectively all of the fans are naive and to blame for letting these guys get away with this. I’m not sure how anyone with issues would look at these guys and actually credit them with saving their lives. It’s depressing, for the lack of a better word.

          I vote for them falling off the face of the Earth too, just to end the ongoing stupidity at least. And before they end up endangering fans. If they haven’t already.

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          1. Here’s a link to one of the vids:

            And the IMDB page:

            http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460681/board/nest/253615003?p=15

            Yeah, I can see why someone who wasn’t in on the in-joke would find it creepy.

            According to IMDB, Misha is training minions to run a hotline. I’m sure THAT will work out just fine. Doesn’t every troubled person want to be ‘counseled’ by someone who’s motivation is pleasing someone who’s part of a fictional sex pairing?

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            1. The video is in poor taste that’s for sure. I’m not even sure what to say. That imdb page gave me a headache with the saccharine fawning and default ‘at least the tinhats are worse than we are’ (yeah, not by much, guys. Not by much).

              They’ve sold 19,000 t-shirts and over 3000 volunteers have signed up. I hope that they don’t kill anybody (and that’s not even snark – I saw someone talking about them how they should branch out and involve medically trained people – that should be the starting point!!!). No one on that imdb page should even be accepted as a volunteer.

              LOL, right? No hotline should be operated by people who are taking the moral high ground because their preferred pairing are doing something together. And I hear Jared is launching another campaign called Love Yourself First….excuse me while I throw up.

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            2. I can’t with this comment:

              “There is a strange story going on tumblr that Creation Entertainment who is sponsoring the t-shirt is only giving 10% of the net profits to YANA. That means if the tshirt was $25 and shipping $20 only $2 would go for the cause. Does Creation get the rest of it because ick. This isn’t true is it?”

              And the response:

              “If it were true, I sure hope the boys own some shares in Creation… But frankly, I don’t think they’d go with something like that. They know they don’t really need Creation to sponsor them – they could raise plenty of funds on their own.”

              Somebody take the wheel…

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          2. Apparently, it wasn’t Jared himself, but the tinhatters who poisoned the minds of the charity against the campaign. They were just brainwashed dupes or something. I guess the charity people couldn’t have watched the vids for themselves and been skeeved out and/or decided the whole fandom cluster%*>{ was something they should stay out of.

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            1. I don’t even know. No one comes out of this seeming like they’re mentally intact. I rebuke all of this nonsense. Not sure how YANA/J&M/their fans can justify the crude spin on the campaign name and not realise the sinister implications. If someone is being stalked or has been in the past, how is that video going to be fun to them along with the one with Misha being in the bathroom with Jensen? Clearly these two are not equipped to be the front of a campaign of this magnitude. At least Jared could somewhat detail his ‘experiences’. Oh, but they sold 30,000 shirts (not even 19 like I read on a previous page, lol, I thought they had ‘millions’ of fans…..).

              Blah, well. Good luck to them all.

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  2. I’m sorry, what? This is absolutely ridiculous. Jared Padalecki struggled with depression, fought his way to the top and is happy. Jensen Ackles and Misha Collins are my personal heroes. Their campaign saved my life. Jared once said, “There is no shame in fighting everyday, but fighting everyday, and if you are alive to read this interview, then you are winning. You are here.” You say the information is vague, and that is the first thing I would agree with you in this entire article. I don’t see anything in that screenshot of the description of the donation that says a part of the donation goes to the charity. I’m sorry if this offends you, I really don’the want to offend anyone, but the Supernatural fandom is a family. And Family comforts each other. As a character from the show, Bobby Singer once said, “Family dont end in blood.” Jensen called the fandom a family. I would not be here without these amazing people. I would not be alive.

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    1. Sigh…

      Jensen Ackles and Misha Collins are my personal heroes. Their campaign saved my life

      They are YOUR personal heroes, not mine. Ergo, I think I’m free to criticise them if I see fit.

      Jared once said, “There is no shame in fighting everyday, but fighting everyday, and if you are alive to read this interview, then you are winning. You are here.”

      …I’m happy that Jared’s…inspirational words are helping people, but to me, this quote is nonsense. If you are alive to read this interview, you’re ‘here’…I mean, really, what does that even mean? It’s just words to me…but each to their own. I’d argue that it’s the fact that it’s Jared saying it that’s supposedly helpful, as opposed to what he’s saying….

      the Supernatural fandom is a family. And Family comforts each other

      Families also fight, cause harm to one another, bully one another and treat people like shit, so by that definition, yes, you guys are one big, happy yet fundamentally dysfunctional family. Jensen (and the rest of them) only buys into the SPN Family mantra for the sake of PR and keeping their pockets lined with your money. Anyone who believes otherwise is deluding themselves. The SPN Family is basically a bunch of customers buying and paying for services provided by the actors, Creation and whoever else takes money from you guys on a daily basis. It’s called business and that’s just how the world works.

      Ask yourself this, besides Jared’s (and all of other’s) ‘inspirational’ messages via interview, when was the last time the guys actually did something for fandom that didn’t require the exchange of money or that wasn’t completely self-indulgent and attention-seeking on their part? I’m guessing that the answer is never.

      You say ridiculous, I say that I am completely aware of what’s happening here.

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  3. I’m sorry, what? This is absolutely ridiculous. Jared Padalecki struggled with depression, fought his way to the top and is happy. Jensen Ackles and Misha Collins are my personal heroes. Their campaign saved my life. Jared once said, “There is no shame in fighting everyday, but fighting everyday, and if you are alive to read this interview, then you are winning. You are here.” You say the information is vague, and that is the first thing I would agree with you in this entire article. I don’t see anything in that screenshot of the description of the donation that says a part of the donation goes to the charity. I’m sorry if this offends you, I really don’the want to offend anyone, but the Supernatural fandom is a family. And Family comforts each other. As a character from the show, Bobby Singer once said, “Family dont end in blood.” Jensen called the fandom a family. I would not be here without these amazing people. I would not be alive.

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